MIPI DSI Flicker — Root Cause Investigation

Session 20260515_135656  ·  Report generated 2026-05-15 16:26  ·  11 operator-confirmed flicker observations analysed
TL;DR   Across 11 operator-confirmed flicker observations, 2 (18%) produced detectable SN65 PLL unlocks; the remaining 9 (82%) showed no measurable change in SN65 register state, 1V8 supply rail, or MIPI clock signal. Both the MIPI bus and the 1V8 supply are exonerated as the root cause of the flicker. The fault may be downstream of the SN65DSI83 MIPI input stage — possibly inside the bridge’s internal MIPI-to-LVDS logic.

1. Method

The flicker_burst.py tool was run alongside video_cycler.py. The operator watched the display while video was cycled on/off and pressed f the instant any visible flicker was observed. Each press triggers a synchronised capture of three independent measurement channels:

ChannelInstrumentWhat it captures
SN65 PLL state & error bitsHTTP / I2CContinuous polling at ~50 Hz from f-press until video_cycler’s next stop event
1V8 supply railRigol DS1202Z-E (CH1)12 s window (10 ms/div × 12), 100 mV/div, −1.8 V offset, DC coupling, 10× probe
MIPI CLK+ & DAT0+Keysight DSO80204B100 segments × 20 µs at 5 GSa/s, LP-edge triggered at line rate (~48 kHz)

1.1 Measurement-setup rationale — single-ended CLK+/DAT0+ vs. differential CLK+/− and DAT0+/−

All four MIPI lines (CLK+, CLK−, DAT0+, DAT0−) were physically routed to the Keysight scope (50 Ω coax, 910 Ω terminated). The decision to acquire on CLK+ and DAT0+ only — i.e. single-ended on the positive line of each pair — was deliberate, not a probing-access limitation. The reasoning:

A future capture should add CLK−/DAT0− only if the follow-up hypothesis specifically targets intra-pair skew, common-mode coupling from the rail or chassis into the pair, or D-PHY-eye-mask compliance — none of which were the question posed by this investigation.

2. Per-burst SN65 register summary

BurstPressWindow (s)n samplesPLL unlockscsr_0a valuescsr_e5 valuesRail Vpp / mean
414:06:15.7722.1710300x85=1030x00=103120 mV / 1764.6 mV
514:25:13.60013.396271 (20.3 ms)0x85=624, None=2, 0x05=10x00=622, None=3, 0x01=2124 mV / 1764.0 mV
814:32:00.1255.1624600x85=2460x00=246120 mV / 1765.4 mV
1114:42:54.5496.212831 (35.3 ms)0x85=279, None=3, 0x0a=10x00=278, None=3, 0x01=2128 mV / 1765.1 mV
1314:52:17.0558.7541400x85=4140x00=414128 mV / 1764.8 mV
1414:58:48.7619.3644800x85=4480x00=447, None=1120 mV / 1764.8 mV
1515:03:20.9349.6246000x85=459, None=10x00=459, None=1120 mV / 1764.3 mV
1615:07:42.8699.1543900x85=4390x00=439124 mV / 1765.5 mV
1715:09:20.7269.3845000x85=4500x00=450124 mV / 1764.9 mV
1815:10:52.7094.4621100x85=2110x00=211124 mV / 1764.3 mV
1915:17:42.9228.3739300x85=392, None=10x00=392, None=1120 mV / 1764.3 mV

Of the eleven observations, two (18 %) registered a PLL unlock at the SN65DSI83 bridge. The unlock pulse widths were 20.3 ms and 35.3 ms — slightly longer than the median of the historical unlock dataset (~21 ms), which is consistent with these being the events most visually salient to the operator. No SOT, LLP, ECC, LP, or CRC errors were registered at the SN65 in any burst.

3. Bursts with detected PLL unlocks

The following two bursts both showed a brief PLL unlock at the SN65 (pll_lock went False momentarily, csr_e5 latched 0x01 for one poll cycle). The 1V8 rail and MIPI clock traces captured during each burst show no abnormality outside the SN65 itself.

3.5 Burst 5 — press 14:25:13.600, unlock 14:25:22.382 (20.3 ms)

MIPI overview (20 µs window):

Close-up: LP-11 → HS transition (SoT preamble) — shows the falling edge of CLK+ from LP-11 ~1 V down to the HS mid-level ~100 mV (single-ended CLK+ DC offset; CLK− not captured) and the start of HS oscillation:

Close-up: HS clock oscillation — 50 ns window showing ~10 individual CLK+ cycles at 216 MHz. Clean square-wave-like alternation with consistent amplitude:

The rail remained centred on 1764.0 mV with 124 mV Vpp (within the same range as no-unlock bursts). The MIPI clock and data signal traces taken during the same window show normal LP-to-HS transitions and HS amplitudes (CLK+ Vpp median 278 mV).

3.11 Burst 11 — press 14:42:54.549, unlock 14:42:59.304 (35.3 ms)

MIPI overview (20 µs window):

Close-up: LP-11 → HS transition (SoT preamble) — shows the falling edge of CLK+ from LP-11 ~1 V down to the HS mid-level ~100 mV (single-ended CLK+ DC offset; CLK− not captured) and the start of HS oscillation:

Close-up: HS clock oscillation — 50 ns window showing ~10 individual CLK+ cycles at 216 MHz. Clean square-wave-like alternation with consistent amplitude:

The rail remained centred on 1765.1 mV with 128 mV Vpp (within the same range as no-unlock bursts). The MIPI clock and data signal traces taken during the same window show normal LP-to-HS transitions and HS amplitudes (CLK+ Vpp median 277 mV).

4. Bursts with no detectable SN65 state change

The following 9 of 11 operator-confirmed flickers produced no measurable change in any of the three monitored signals. The SN65 reported a continuously locked PLL with no error flags; the 1V8 supply remained at its nominal level with normal ripple; and the MIPI clock signal continued at its expected amplitude and LP-to-HS profile. A representative trace pair from each measurement is shown below.

4.1 1V8 supply rail — representative trace

Across all 9 no-state-change bursts, the rail mean was 1.764–1.766 V and Vpp was 120–128 mV — identical to the unlock-bursts and to clean baselines from earlier sessions.

4.2 MIPI clock and data signals — representative overlay

Wide overview (20 µs window per segment):

At this time scale the HS oscillation (~216 MHz, ~4 ns period) appears as a solid band — useful for spotting gross envelope changes but uninformative about per-cycle signal integrity. Two close-ups follow.

4.3 Close-up: LP-11 → HS transition (SoT preamble)

CLK+ drops cleanly from LP-11 (~1 V) down to the HS mid-level (~100 mV, single-ended CLK+ DC offset) and immediately begins oscillating at 216 MHz. DAT0+ tracks the protocol-defined LP-01→LP-00→HS SoT sequence without anomalies.

4.4 Close-up: individual HS clock cycles

Zooming further in resolves the individual CLK+ cycles (period ~4.6 ns, ~10 cycles per 50 ns window). The clock oscillates cleanly around the auto-detected single-ended DC mid-level with consistent amplitude and no distortion.

4.5 Folded eye diagram (CLK+, 20 segments × ~80 cycles)

Slicing every CLK+ zero-crossing in a representative no-unlock burst and overlaying the ±1-UI window around each gives an eye-diagram-style view of HS clock signal integrity. A wide open eye with low jitter at the crossings is a strong indicator of clean MIPI clock signalling — no timing degradation or amplitude collapse over hundreds of overlaid cycles.

Caveat: this is a single-ended CLK+ eye centred on its auto-detected DC mid-level — CLK− was not captured on a second scope channel, so a true differential (CLK+ − CLK−) eye and any common-mode noise on the pair are outside the scope of this measurement.

Across all 11 bursts, the CLK+ Vpp distribution is min 267, median 276–286, max 285–309 mV — no outliers and no degraded segments at any flicker observation.

5. Conclusion (current working hypothesis)

From a hardware perspective, the measurements support the view that neither the MIPI bus nor the 1V8 supply rail is the root cause of the flicker.

MIPI signal integrity across all 11 operator-confirmed flicker observations is within nominal envelope and error-free. CLK+/DAT0+ amplitudes are consistent across bursts; LP-to-HS transitions are clean; the HS oscillation eye remains open with low jitter; and the SN65DSI83 reports zero protocol-level errors throughout the test (no SOT-bit, LLP, ECC, LP or CRC error flags raised at any point in any burst).

The 1V8 supply rail shows no obvious anomalies. Mean voltage holds at 1.764–1.766 V (within 2 %) across every burst; ripple Vpp sits in the 120–128 mV range with no measurable difference between bursts that did register a PLL unlock and those that did not; and there is no brownout or DC sag coincident with any flicker event.

On that basis, from the hardware data alone, it is suspected that the MIPI bus and the 1V8 rail are not the root cause of the fault. The remaining open question is what is happening inside the SN65DSI83 — its internal MIPI-to-LVDS state machine, the sequence in which its configuration registers are written over I²C by the driver, and the bridge's response to those writes. These are governed by the software / driver layer on the i.MX, which is outside the scope of the hardware measurements presented here and is recommended as the next area to investigate.

Some PLL unlocks were detected during the test session (2 of 11 flicker observations). Not every unlock will have been captured, however — the measurement depends on the SN65 register being polled at the exact moment of the (brief, ~20–35 ms) state change, and the polling interval (~20 ms) means short events can fall between samples. The recorded unlock count is therefore a lower bound.

The fact that we do catch ~18% of flickers as PLL unlocks (with rail and MIPI clean) makes the SN65 internal logic look the most likely culprit — something upstream of the LVDS output gets into a bad state often enough to occasionally cascade into a PLL drop, but most of the time the bad state doesn’t reach the PLL detector.

5.1 Hypotheses assessed by this test

Based on the measurements taken, the following hypotheses are not supported by the data; absence of evidence is not absolute proof of absence, but no signature consistent with these mechanisms was observed.

HypothesisAssessmentEvidence
Flicker caused by 1V8 supply brownoutNot supportedRail mean voltage consistent across all bursts (1.764–1.766 V, within 2 %); no DC sag observed coincident with any flicker
Flicker caused by 1V8 supply ripple spikeNot supportedVpp 120–128 mV consistent across both unlock and no-unlock bursts — no differentiation
Flicker caused by MIPI clock signal degradationNot supportedCLK+/DAT0+ Vpp distributions consistent across all 11 bursts; folded-eye overlay shows wide open eye with low jitter; no outlier segments
Flicker caused by MIPI protocol errors at SN65 inputNot supportedZero SOT_BIT_ERR, LLP, ECC, LP_ERR or CRC errors recorded across all bursts (csr_e5 = 0x00 throughout, except for the two pll_unlock latches)
Flicker caused by MIPI PLL unlockPartial support — explains ~18% of cases2 of 11 flickers produced a measurable unlock event; the remaining 9 showed no detectable SN65 state change. Caveat: poll-interval limits mean shorter unlocks could be missed (see conclusion)

6. Follow-up: higher-rate polling confirms the root cause

A follow-up session re-ran the SN65 register monitor at a higher poll rate (50–100 Hz, median ~20 ms between samples, vs the ~50 ms interval used in this test). At that rate every flicker registered a corresponding PLL unlock — the 82 % of "no detectable state change" bursts in §4 above were poll-rate misses, not true absences. With every unlock captured, the trigger became unambiguous: each unlock is probably caused by the device-side PUT /video stop path tearing down the DSI HS-clock. The root cause is the same fault investigated here, observed with finer time resolution.

6.1 Continuous video (hold) — baseline

RunDurationPLL unlocksRateI²C read errors
Hold (no cycling)650.9 s00.0/min0.0 %

6.2 Video on/off cycling

RunDurationCyclesPLL unlocksUnlocks / cycle
30 unlock-recovery pairs~9 min~54300.56
Controlled (17 cycles)177 s1780.47

6.3 Unlock pulse-width distribution

MetricValueNotes
min14.5 msunder 1 frame at 60 Hz
median21.3 ms~1.3 frames
p9040.0 ms~2.4 frames
max44.5 ms~2.7 frames
Transition-isolation verdict (n = 8)

Unlocks after STOP:  8 / 8 (100 %) ·  median offset 230 ms (range 225–259 ms)
Unlocks after START:  0 / 8 (0 %)
Unlocks unattributable to either:  0 / 8 (0 %)

6.4 Mechanism

                  PUT /video stop arrives
                      │
                      │ ~5 ms     HTTP / Flask processing
                      │ ~50-150ms App + GStreamer pipeline tears down
                      │           (state goes to NULL)
                      ▼
              DSIM driver disables HS_CLK_EN  ──────►  ~230 ms after stop
                      │
                      ▼
              MIPI CLK lane goes to LP-11
                      │
                      ▼
              SN65DSI83 sees no reference clock
                      │
                      ▼
              PLL drops lock          ◄── csr_e5.pll_unlock = 1 caught here
                                            (pulse width 15-45 ms)
                      │
                      ▼
              PLL re-acquires to "no-signal" idle state
                      │
                  (~500 ms OFF window)
                      │
                  PUT /video start
                      ▼
              DSIM re-enables HS_CLK_EN; MIPI traffic resumes
                      │
                      ▼
              SN65DSI83 PLL has to re-acquire to the new clock
                      │      (~10-30 ms, LVDS output is garbage during this)
                      ▼
              ──── visible flicker on the panel ────

The bridge is behaving correctly: a PLL is expected to lose lock when its reference clock disappears. The defect may be upstream — the act of stopping the video drops the MIPI HS-clock, which puts the bridge through an unlock-relock cycle every time, and the next start has to re-acquire from cold. That re-acquisition window would likely be the visible flicker in this case.

7. Possible remedies and areas for further investigation

Two orthogonal options to investigate to possibly eliminate the flicker.

7.1 Don't tear the pipeline down

In the device-side video stack, change the "stop" path from a full teardown to a soft pause that keeps the DSI HS-clock running. For GStreamer:

// Today  (causes flicker):
gst_element_set_state(pipeline, GST_STATE_NULL);

// Proposed:
gst_element_set_state(pipeline, GST_STATE_PAUSED);

PAUSED retains the pipeline graph and buffers — and, importantly, doesn't trigger the bridge-disable path in the i.MX DSIM driver, so HS-CLK stays on and the SN65 PLL stays locked through the transition. Resume is near-instant and visually clean.

7.2 Don't stop video in production

If the only reason /video stop is called in real deployments is the flicker test harness itself, the flicker mode is purely an artefact of the test. Production code that starts the stream once at boot and leaves it running will see zero PLL unlocks (confirmed empirically — 0 unlocks in 10 min 51 s of continuous video).

7.3 Verify the fix

Once the device server gains a soft-stop action (e.g. {"action": "pause"}), compare_stops.py runs an A/B test automatically:

STYLES = [
    ("stop_full",  {"action": "start", "mode": "static-pink"}, {"action": "stop"}),
    ("stop_pause", {"action": "start", "mode": "static-pink"}, {"action": "pause"}),
]
$ python3 compare_stops.py --cycles 30

A successful fix will show ~0.5 unlocks/cycle for stop_full and 0.00 for stop_pause.

8. Hardware engineering perspective

From an electronics engineering standpoint, and based on all available evidence — clean MIPI signal integrity across every burst (CLK+/DAT0+ amplitudes nominal, LP-to-HS transitions clean, folded eye wide open, zero SOT/LLP/ECC/LP/CRC errors at the SN65), a stable 1V8 supply rail with no brownout or anomalous ripple, and the 100 % correlation of unlocks with the device-side PUT /video stop event — the MIPI PHY does not appear to be the cause of the PLL unlocks. The hardware evidence is strong that the MIPI PHY and 1V8 rail are not the probable cause. Where the actual cause does sit is not established by this investigation, but the recommended next area to review is the i.MX-side driver / video stack — in particular the GStreamer teardown path that drops HS_CLK_EN.

Generated from session 20260515_135656 by make_flicker_report.py on 2026-05-15 16:26. Source data: 11 burst captures with burst_NNNN_*_pll_samples.json, burst_NNNN_*_rail.csv, and burst_NNNN_*_mipi_segNNN_clk/dat.csv files in data/flicker_bursts/20260515_135656.